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The Loudmouth Project

A big sister’s perspective

In this episode, we bring you an edited version of the podcast “Thanks for sharing” with Jackie Pack. The Bountiful addiction recovery therapist is the older sister of Congressman Ben McAdams, and they discuss overcoming the difficulties of their childhood, how hardships shaped him, and how politics can become something that helps people and heals communities.

You can find more from Pack, including the complete episode, at


About the author, Amy

For nearly three decades, Amy has been telling other people’s stories. As a professional journalist, she’s covered everything from crime to education, spending the last 19 years in sports. As an award-winning writer and columnist, she wrote about high school and college athletics, as well as covering six Olympic Games. Born in Utah, Amy moved to Alaska in junior high and graduated from Robert Service High School in Anchorage. She graduated from both Snow College and the University of Utah, and she has worked as a journalist in Salt Lake City since 1990. She co-hosted a high school radio show for over a decade, and she co-founded Voices of Reason podcast with her Deseret News colleague Jasen Lee. She is a wife, a mother, a grandmother and a devoted foster to animals hoping to find a home of their own.

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